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Saturday, March 9, 2013

Great Video by Questeon

For those who have visited here before, you know that I have a great deal of admiration for  It is much more robust and has much more indepth analysis of Moly and FDR.  I particularly like that he properly categorizes the types of visitors to freedomainradio.  And how he properly explains Moly as a teacher (good), philosopher (below average at best), and then as a family counselor (deeply misguided, dangerous and cult like).

Here is the video

I hope you will visit FDR Liberated and the associated forum.  I also hope Questeon will offer up more video content like this.

Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Molyneux as a Narcissist.

Someone sent me a great podcast of the time when Moly is about to make the big move to leave his job in I.T. and go full time into Internet philosophy.  Christina is a big part of FDR's founding and ongoing operations.  She participates in 'Ask a Therapist' call in shows.  Moly says she advises him on matters psychological.  And she does an occasional joint podcasts with Moly.  But in this podcast she is resisting the idea of being a participant in the new 'full time' FDR.  I can't imagine why Moly made this private discussion with his wife public, but he did.  As Christina lays out here position that she simply did not want to participate in FDR, I had to listen in amazement at Moly's reaction.    I am paraphrasing here.  Feel free to listen to the podcast yourself if you want the complete details (FDR 724).

Moly pointed out that Christina's reluctance was a problem for his new full time endeavor. Why?  According to Moly, there would only be two reasons for her none participation.  Either "you do not believe in my efforts, which would undermine my credibility."   OR "You lack the courage to put herself out there  If that were the case, since self esteem marries equal self esteem, that would mean, (remember I am paraphrasing) I married a low self esteem person and my credibility would be shot."   I guess that since he already knew Christina's reasons, there was no reason for her to give her own.  She really should not have to give him any reasons.  IT is her free choice.  Still Moly is browbeating her and ultimately reduces the discussuion to how it makes him look.  Reminds me of the joke about the narcissist in a conversation with a long lost acquaintance.  He says, "I have been talking about myself for an hour.  How about you?  What do you think of me?"   

Anyone in a mature relationship can see the meta story behind this sort of husband/wife vignette.

Monday, February 4, 2013

Molyneux as a Narcissist - Part 2

Ran across a good article on FDR Liberated.  It notes the remarkable consistency of Molyneux's writings, podcasts, call in counseling sessions with 'splitting.'  Splitting is a hallmark diagnostic indication of Nacrissistic Personality Disorder.  FDR Liberated is a much better site than this one for understanding the nature of FDR and Stefan Molyneux. 

As a reminder to my dear readers, I used to listen to and enjoy Moly's podcasts.  As I read the FDR Liberated article I remembered when I first started to lose interest.  It was when he offered up sympathy for the 9/11 truthers (i.e. the belief that the U.S. government knew about the 9/11 attacks in advance and let them happen).  He said something like.  "I wouldn't put anything past a government as corrupt as this."  I remember thinking, 'OK. This guy is a little off his nut.'  As I read the article at FDR Liberated, I realized this was Molyneux doing a splitting thing.  There was no room for a inefficient, badly run, over reaching government.  It had to be totally corrupt. All bad.  No possibility of any redeeming characteristics.  So corrupt that it would murder thousands of its own citizens as a matter of course. 

Anyway, do please visit FDR Liberated if you care to get further thinking on the subject. 

Friday, February 1, 2013

Family relationships are more than just another adult relationship

Without a doubt the most asinine comments I get involve the observation that   “Molyneux isn't against the family.  He is only about voluntarily ending unhealthy relationships.” 
I have a question for those commenter's and anyone else who thinks that is “all Moly is saying”.  If the only thing Moly puts forth is this simpleton axiom, then why are you listening to him on anything related to the family? 

I suspect that the answer is because that is NOT all he believes.  Like all con men, he starts with an obvious truth and then corrupts it.  He drones on and on, as if he had a clue, as to what a healthy parent child relationship is about.  In the course of his never ending pod-casts  he offers one seemingly obvious but totally incorrect message.  Moly and his wife try to get you to believe that your relationships with your parents are no different than any other “adult” relationship in your life.  He claims that you should have the same standard with your parents as other relationships.  As reasonable as that sounds at first, if you take any time to consider it, you have to find that it is a truly silly construct.   

A healthy relationship with your parents is nothing like other adult relationships.  It shouldn't be.  A healthy relationship with your parents involves lots of things that would never exist anywhere else in your life.  If you are doing well and you are happy, your parents are happy right along with you.  No one else in your life cares about you in that way.  If you are screwing up, your parents will likely speak up.  If you have a brain, you will at least give their opinion some consideration.  If you reject their advice, they will take it in stride and wish you well.  In what other relationship in your life, can you just show up at their home and be welcomed in no matter what.  Your parents are planning on how they can give you their estate when they die.  Is there any other ‘adult relationship’ you have that involves estate planning?   Or how about simple table manners.  Your parents provided you with food, security, shelter and love for the first 20 years or so of your life.  They endured all your bad behavior and peccadilloes and still supported you and loved you.  As a matter of morality and ethics, you should return the favor and forgive them their transgressions.  Anyone can come up with countless additional examples of why the healthy family relationship is, and should be, fundamentally different from 'other adult relationships.'  
If you think differently, feel free to get a grip.   

Tuesday, December 11, 2012

Justice is served

Justice is served when those who willfully hurt others are punished for their acts.  When I started this blog, parents routinely contacted me looking for help.  It has been months since that has happened.  And where before, it was hard to find an example of a defoo victim returning, parents are now telling me their children are re-connecting.  I think this worm has turned.  I think Moly is now completely cowed by bad publicity over the defoo thing.  I also think because of that, very few now take him even a little bit seriously as a source for libertarian thought anymore.  His under educated wife is now officially and properly identified by her profession’s licensing body as having engaged in “professional misconduct” related to her unethical counseling during a freedomainradio call-in show.  A web search on Christina Papadopoulos (or Christina Molyneux) would turn up a therapist who is weak willed, naive  over matched, and a devoted follower of her cult leader husband.  It will show that she is guilty of professional misconduct.  It will show that she has counseled people she did not know via an internet call-in show sponsored by her husband. And that she advised those people to cruelly break with their families with no warning and no opportunity for communications or counseling.  I have to think that the Molyneux family business is suffering.  In short:  Justice is being served.  

So what now?  After justice is served, redemption often follows.  If Moly publicly and convincingly disavows his idiotic, simpleton and destructive family views, that would be a good start.  If he successfully seeks out each and every one of his defoo followers; then gets each and every one to return home with a true conviction in their hearts to find reconciliation with their parents and loved ones, then I will declare victory and take this site down.  

I won't hold my breath on this.  Still.  It has to be burdensome to Moly's mental health to know that he has been engaging in such morally reprehensible and damaging behavior for so long.  Doing the right thing could be a good thing for his general mental healthI bet redemption would lift a large burden from his heart.  A burden that he doesn't even know exists.  Until then, he can work on getting used to the new normal.    

Saturday, November 3, 2012

Christina Papadopoulos - Guilty of Misconduct

Well this has been a long time coming.  The College of Psychologists of Ontario has finally faced the obvious truth that Christina Papadopoulos guilty of professional misconduct.  Here is the article from the Toronto Globe and Mail.   
Some excerpts and my thoughts (in bold):
Excerpt:  In another podcast, the couple discussed a listener who wrote a letter describing how he cut ties with his family and rerouted his mother’s daily e-mailed pleas titled “We love you” into his junk mail folder. “She’s trying to push your buttons. She’s trying to appeal to your guilt,” Ms. Papadopoulos said. “The best thing to do under those circumstances is just not to engage. …The moment you respond back, she knows she’s got you.”            -  Wow.  That is some serious professional therapist advice.  The callers mother is reaching out to offer her love and Christina acts like a teenager advising her BFF over how to handle her latest rival.  "That will teach her to make fun of your outfit.  Just ignore her.  If you call her out, she will get the upper hand. "  

At Tuesday’s hearing, Mr. Osborne said, the perception of Ms. Papadopoulos’s objectivity was compromised because her husband’s website solicits donations.   -  Ya Think?  
Ms. Papadopoulos didn't speak at the hearing, except to enter her plea. In the statement of facts, she said “she was, with the benefit of hindsight, naive about the use and possible misuse of information distributed via the Internet.”  
                       -  Isn't that special.  Poor me.  I'm naive:  The woman was actively presenting herself as a licensed therapist and  trying to get people to break with their families in a most horribly cruel way. And she succeeded.  But she asks that she be excused due to naivety.  What about the victims?  If Christina had the capacity for a normal amount of shame, she would commit herself to trying to undo the damage she has caused.  Here are some concrete things she could do.  How about her own podcast on FDR disavowing their outrageous family belief.  Apologizing.  How about persuading her deeply deranged husband to get over his beliefs and do the same sort of podcast.  How about reaching out to all those who have deFoo'ed and counsel them to  seek out their parents, family and friends.  To seek out reconciliation.  If Christina did that, perhaps she would find redemption in her own heart.  If she did that, I would be inclined to forgive her as well.  

Thursday, June 21, 2012

A Suicide Caused by Stefan Molyneux and Christina Papadopoulos and FreeDomainRadio

I use the pseudonym Edmund Burke because he is credited with the saying: All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.  I am posting here a profoundly sad story from a stricken parent.  I have spoken directly to the father and have independently verified the facts. This post is true.  

Here is a father's story:    

            I am a father of one fewer children than I had before.  My son was stolen from me by wolves in sheep’s clothing—wolves named Stefan Molyneux and Christina Papadopoulos.  Together these two and their destructive worldview  warped my son’s heart and stole everything he held dear, until he found himself isolated and hopeless.  My son killed himself as a result of their destructive influence on his life.
            We’ll call my son Sam.  Sam was in his young adulthood, only three years into life on his own, with his own job, own car, an apartment with a buddy, and enjoying life.  His childhood was idyllic—safe environment, loving family, raised in Christian love yet given freedom to think for himself, and not abused in any way.  After graduation he joined the Army—a childhood dream of his—and was living in the south.  While away he maintained strong ties with family and many friends in several states.  He kept in contact with them regularly and even visited numerous times despite being half a continent away.  He even drove across the country for his mom’s birthday!
            Within a two month period, that all changed.  He went from, “I’ll be praying for you” or “I can’t wait to see what God has in store for me”, to “I have no faith” and a total excommunication of Christian family and friends.  He even shunned and quit communicating with his three siblings, whom he loved dearly.
            Many of us tried to find out what was going on in Sam’s life.  The one thing he mentioned was studying the teachings of Stefan Molyneux, Christina Papadopoulos and their blog minions at FreeDomainRadio.  While this organization has some appealing features and draws people in with their fresh and exciting podcasts and blogs on politics and philosophy, under the surface is a worldview that is destructive to those who become immersed.  Sam was swept up by it.
            The worldview preached by the Molyneux cult is a combination of extreme libertarian politics, atheistic religion, and a warped psychology that believes parents are the root cause of all a person’s problems.  In their view, there is no such thing as a good parent.  They clearly counseled Sam to distance himself early from parents and Christians.  It initially started with a lack of the usual responsive communication, then to “de-friending” on Facebook, to “leave me alone,” and finally to a scathing “goodbye-forever” letter, all within the period of a few months.  The letter is too painful to quote from, filled with crazy jargon and phrases, evidence of brainwashing by the Molyneux wolves.
            We saw that coming.  We did our research on the Molyneux cult and learned of other families that had been ripped apart by the infamous “DeFOO”—Departing the Family Of Origin.  That’s exactly what Sam did to us, and then some.  He completely burned his family and Christian friend bridges.  Not only didn’t it solve his problems but rather contributed to his self-destruction.
            There is much written elsewhere about the religion of atheism versus following Jesus Christ or any other deity.  It might seem an oxymoron, but atheism is actually a religion too—that of the self being the only high authority in life, a sort of self-worship.  As one gets to know oneself more, however, he comes to the realization that focus on self is a short, dead-end trail that leaves one utterly disappointed.  I believe Sam reached the end of that trail, and in his mind he had no family and support structure to turn back to, even though we would have welcomed him home with open arms and a party of the grandest designs.
            After finishing his service to the Army—less than six months after the DeFOO--Sam set off on his own to find a new career, new home, a new identity as a free man.  Only seven days into his journey he found himself sitting alone in the car he lived in, with no one to turn to who could see the root cause of his suffering and offer him help, and no hope in his heart for redemption by a loving and forgiving God.  Sam shot himself in the head and died instantly.
            We all hurt for Sam, for ourselves, and for those who also miss him.  It was painful enough to lose him as a result of DeFOO, but we thought there would come a day when he would come back to us.  There was always hope of his return.  Now Sam has been ripped away forever, and the wound is deeper than before.  We will never on this earth have a chance to tell him again how much we love him, grow closer as he matures, or play with the children he never had.   
Chalk one up to Molyneux and Papadopoulos, The Destroyers.  May it never happen again.

A few final thoughts from Edmund.  
It was and continues to be inevitable that the evil perpetuated by  Stephan Molyneux and his wife Christina Papadopoulos is lethal.  I have observed that when a defoo succeeds (success is defined as anyone who defoo's and then becomes a reliable donor to the FDR cult), it is extolled as a triumph of Moly's will.  But when a defoo goes bad (as it always does), it is never because the victim bought into the Moly's destructive anti-family asininity.  Molyneux followers will contend that the decision to defoo has nothing to do with the efforts of Moly and his expert therapist wife with her Bachelor's degree.  It is always something else.  
But isn't it possible that the victims took the advice of Molyneux and isolated themselves from their family and friends because Moly and his followers work hard to persuade people to do exactly that?  Isn't it possible that when the defoo victim becomes sad and depressed; when the interminable suffering and sadness comes to be; when the inevitable does finally occur and a good man dies, that a contributing factor was an involvement with FDR?  I think the FDR community makes no effort to consider this as even a possibility.  They defend Moly with rationalizations and all the standard FDR sanctioned bromides.  "It was the parent's fault after all."  Or " you can't blame Moly for something like this."  For those who feel this way, I continue to beg you to find the truth in your heart and in your mind.  

Tuesday, May 29, 2012

The End of a Defoo

Got this comment from the 'Family business' below.  I think it is worth an upgrade to it's own post.  Here is the comment:  

"Edmund, I am happy to report that after almost 4years my daughter has resumed contact with family and friends. The nightmare has finally ended for us, for all the parents out there who are still waiting, your kids will figure it out they will come back it's just a matter of time. Thanks so much for this website Edmund it helped me through alot of tough times. Keep the faith."

As for me, I offer this on behalf of all parents who are waiting for our children to come home: 
You are welcome to return at a time of your choosing.   If' or when that day comes, you will receive a warm smile and a hug.  Probably a meal will be involved.  It can be for a visit or you may want a place to crash.  It is 'home' after all.  
Do know that while we hope you return, more than anything else, we wish you happiness in your life.  

Friday, May 11, 2012

Freedomain Radio - A family business

Stefan Molyneux and his wife Christina Papadopoulos run an internet site called Freedomain Radio. Families end up in ruin, but not to worry. It is nothing more than a voluntary decision to discontinue adult relationships.

Stefan Molyneux runs the site full time and generates revenue from donations. His wife is a licensed therapist in Mississauga, Canada (a Toronto suburb). She practices as Christina Papadopoulos. Ms. Papadopoulos is the source of Molyneux’s foundational beliefs and exhortations that there is a strong and convincing connection between psychology and philosophy. His early essays are clear that her insights on the family and relationships created the intellectual wellspring for his psychology/philosophy connection. He often refers to his wife as the ‘brains of the operation.’

Molyneux originated as an acolyte of Ayn Rand (author and philosopher who invented the philosophy of Objectivism). Molyneux moved on to what might be considered the final stop on the Objectivist train line. Molyneux believes he has figured out how to have a utopian state of free trade and property rights with zero government. This is often called anarcho-capitalism. He used to podcast from his car on his way to and from his job as an Information Technology worker. I used to listen to these podcasts. I found them to be engaging and entertaining. I looked at them the same way you would if you were having a party with some good friends and the discussion moved to a thought experiment. Hey guys, what would it be like if there were no police or courts? How could you make a stateless society work?

Molyneux is making a serious suggestion of an answer to these questions. He contends that when society finally falls under the weight of debt, corruption, etc, the Moly version of an anarcho-capitalist utopia will rise from the rubble. On some level, Molyneux certainly knows that anarchy is unworkable. There are certain examples from history where anarchy works, but it is almost always in the context of benign neglect (e.g. Hong Kong) or some remote part of a country where the govt is there buy does not have any presence.  Because it is part of a soverign country, a thug can't establish providence over the area, so the locals have to figure out a way.  They have private property.  Freedom. A cultural agreement on rule of law.  When it happens it is a beautiful thing.  Mostly though, history tells us that Anarchy comes after a people throw off the shackles of an oppressive state.  And shortly after that period of anarchy, the inevitable result is horror and suffering that comes from the breakdown of society.  Shortly after that, there the second inevitability.  A dictatiorial thug with the biggest and toughest armed supporters takes over.   Once the new thug is in charge, the state is back with a vengence.  Now the real atrocities begin.  The bolsheviks over threw the Czar in the name of freedom.  Whoops.  The Russians got four generations of death by the millions and a morose totalitarian regime that sucked every bit of huma joy imaginable out of life.  Molyneux does try to describe a way to address the problem with Anarchy and history. For an intelligent and idealistic young adult, the Molyneux version of anarcho-capitalism can have a lot of appeal.

Alas, there is more to FDR than anarcho-capitalist musings. Molyneux spends a lot of time discussing his childhood. He says his father left when he was young and his mother was relentlessly abusive. He further contends that he and his brother kicked their mother out of the house when he was fifteen. Somewhere along the way, Molyneux broke with his family forever. I have received posts from people who knew Moly as a child and knew his mother.  Suffice it to say, Moly may be overstating his horrible childhood.  After they were married, his wife Christina broke with her parents. In a podcast some time ago, Molyneux described a discussion he had with his wife. In it he describes the revelation that they both had. The family structure was at the root of people’s INABILITY to find complete and true freedom. The thinking can be encapsulated like this:
· People reject anarcho-capitalism for psychological reasons (as opposed to empirical historical analysis or simple logical reasoning).
· Nearly all parents are corrupt child abusers
· Naturally their psychology is messed up by their parents
· The best way to repair the psychological damage done by your parents and be truly free is to abandon your family

The public reason for the emphasis on Psychology is so people will be more willing to accept anarcho-capitalism. But in the parlance of the con man, that message is only the tale. Here is an early essay from Molyneux. It is so thoroughly out there that it is hard to take seriously, but he really believes what he wrote here. This essay discloses the basis for all that is FDR today:
Therapists generally consider that a patient who is terminating a multitude of long-term relationships is acting in an impulsive and self-destructive manner. In particular, breaking off relationships with family members is considered only a last resort, usually reserved for physically abusive parents or spouses. Everything else is supposed to be ‘worked out.’
Of course, quite the opposite is true. Of all the relationships in your life, your relationship with your parents and siblings is by far the most likely to be completely screwed up. Not only that, but you also have absolutely no power to improve these relationships.
Harsh? Not at all. Merely logical.

When raising children, parents have absolutely no idea what they’re doing. Why should children obey them? Because parents are right? Hell no – ask parents why they hold their beliefs, they don’t have a clue. How could they? The last competent philosopher was probably John Locke, over three hundred years ago. The general social stream of ideas is just muck and confusion, designed by evil people to baffle and paralyze any good souls that accidentally emerge from the sick swamps of modern thought.

Average parents can no more reinvent morality from scratch than they can build a Space Shuttle in their backyards. Still, they have to get their children to obey them – how do they do it?

Oh, the usual suspects. Guilt, shame, withdrawal, criticism, bribery, bullying, manipulation – the usual crap that has passed for parenting throughout history. Guilt, shame and bullying always rush to fill the void when logical morality loses favour, because children must be taught, and if no carrots are to be found, sticks will always just have to do.

So face it: your parents were bullies, or weak curriers of favour, or manipulative emotional infants themselves. You have no respect for them, for respect requires courage, and courage requires logical morality. You do not love them, since love demands virtue, and manipulating children into blind obedience is not at all virtuous. There are only a few possible responses to modern parents:

- Contempt- Indifference- Boredom- Hatred- Empty conformity

These are usually mixed into an over-stimulating frappe of conflicting emotions, leaving family gatherings fraught with tension, alienation, dissociation and emptiness.

You are told to repair things with your parents, but that is an impossible task – a complete waste of time that will also make you crazy. Since they hurt you when you were young, you cannot fix the relationship. To make the point with an extreme example, if you are raped by a man, you cannot cure him of his desire to rape. Maybe someone else can, but you cannot. Since your parents bullied or bribed you into blind obedience, you cannot help them become better people. Maybe someone else can. A therapist perhaps. But not you. You have no hope, since their guilt about how they treated you will always muck up any attempt at honest communication.

And really, it is impossible to forgive someone who has bullied a child. Forgiveness is for repairable events, like being distracted or breaking a vase. A bad childhood cannot be repaired or returned intact. Where restitution is impossible, forgiveness is impossible. Don’t even try.

Does this sound too radical? Do you think it extreme for me to say that almost all parents are horribly bad? Perhaps it is. However, if you look at the state of the world – the general blindness and the slow death of our liberties – the challenge you take on by disagreeing with me is this: if it’s not the parents, what is it?
Either the world is not sick, or parents are. Because, as my wife says, it all starts with the family. If you want to perform the greatest service for political liberty, all you have to do is turf all of your unsatisfying relationships. Parents, siblings, spouse, it doesn’t matter.

- Stefan Molyneux

So if you are following this: All parents are bad. So are siblings and spouses. All family relationships are bad and can’t be repaired. If you think you love them, you’re sick. They all have to go.
So how does FDR work in practice?
When a new visitor enters a chat room or forum, there are the obliging FDR members who engage the new visitors then stick with them over the course of time. When the new member begins to join into the anti-family culture that is FDR, the other members encourage the conversation. And then they start promoting the abandonment of their family. Molyneux posts on the forums but he does his most damaging work during public ‘call in’ radio shows (and in personal conversations with potential donators who are on the brink and need the final push).
The Sunday ‘call in’ shows' and the ‘ask the therapist’ call in show’ where Christina participates are simultaneously mesmerizing and deeply sad. This is where Molyneux is fully engaged in the argument for ‘freedom.’ This is where Molyneux does his best to persuade kids to leave their families or to cement their decision. It is here where he actively and effectively persuades them and the call in show listeners that their parents were evil. These are unlicensed therapy sessions where he engages in an orgy of projection of his own issues and breathtaking manipulation. It is during these truly infuriating sessions when he picks out some routine complaint and in a manner that would make Barbra Walters proud, he gets the poor caller to a state of sadness and vulnerability. Everyone has some sort of issue that can be exploited. Even if he can't find an issue, he confabulates one. His favorites fall into these areas:

· Your father dominated you and destroyed your self esteem
· Your mother ignored you and withheld affection
· Your parents were abusive to you by insisting you behave in public
· Your parents never respected it when you had your own thoughts or beliefs
· You were never allowed to feel true happiness
· Your parents took you to church. i.e. it is abusive in the extreme to suggest to a young child that there is a mystical non-existent god that is all knowing and all seeing.
· Your mother only had you so you could be delivered to your father for abuse 
Moly uses this last one and the 'religion as abuse' to connect the mother to the abusive parent narrative.  Father's are often the disciplinarian in the family.  It is relitively easy to come up with stuff on dad and why he was a corrupt bully.  Mom isn't a pushover, but she is mostly  quite loving and saintly in how the kids are treated.  This creates a real challenge for Moly to rationalize why a young adult should engage in such cruelity towards their mother.  

These templates don’t always work. I got a link to one of his therapy sessions on a call in show.  He could not get the caller to bite on any of the standard stories of parental miss behavior. Molyneux kept probing. But the caller’s parents were pretty easy going. The caller said he was allowed to have his freedom. They never engaged in physical discipline. Molyneux was frustrated. He seemed to realize that everyone on the call was listening and he was failing to make his point. Eventually Molyneux said to the caller, "They didn’t even care enough to hit you.”  I am serious.  I heard him say that myself.

But most times, it is easy for Molyneux (actually it is easy for anyone), to find and exploit an area of vulnerability. In one session, a young female caller was upset because she had an argument with her mother and her mother finally sent her to her room.
The caller said, “I remember feeling so angry and upset that she would not listen to me.”
That was all Molyneux needed to confirm the her mother was corrupt and abusive. The caller ended up in tears. Eventually something creates the emotional reaction that puts the caller in a state of acceptance of Molyneux's main message. That message is always the same:
Your parents were abusive and your best chance to find true freedom is to abruptly abandon your family.
This is consistent with Molyneux's own alleged sad childhood experience. As a complete narcissist, Molyneux likely believes that others need to mirror his experience to find their own freedom (i.e. leave your parents like I left mine). He tries to control himself, but there are well documented times when he has overtly called for the FDR member to make the break. He has a series of podcasts on how to make the break, etc. Sadly, there are some who are at the right young adult age and in the right state of mind to be receptive to this damaging concept. "Why not? Let me be free. I'll do it!!" When that happens there is another broken family and another donator to FDR.
In the FDR world the family break has a name. It is called a DeFoo. FOO is the Family of Origin. DeFoo means departing the FOO. A Defoo is different from the occasional, young adult ‘get me out of here’ break up. A DeFoo is a Molyneux invention that is based on one truism and one perversion.

The truism: Adult relationships, including family relationships, are voluntary.
The Perversion: practically all parents are abusive and corrupt in the Molyneux world.

Once he persuades the young adult that these two things are true, he and his minions start working hard on the defoo. When they finally succeed, this sudden event is traumatic for all concerned. The victim did not realize how much this loss would affect them. They have “voluntarily” abandoned the love and support of their family. There is a huge emotional vacuum. Molyneux is poised to fill that void....for a fee. This is how he makes his money. He gets locked in contributors who have nowhere else to go. They find themselves increasingly 'comfortable' in the FDR community. Other relationships are broken off. 
Moly aggresively seeks donations. There is a graduated fee structure: silver, gold, diamond etc. The top donator status is the Philosopher King. That one requires an initiation fee plus $50 a month. The main differentiating aspect of each donator status is the level of access. His wife does bring in revenue from her family therapy practice, but his only form of income is from donations to his site. If he gets a young person to leave their family of origin (the FOO), they are more likely to consistently donate to FDR.

On occasion, Molyneux does put out a purely PR comment encouraging therapy, communications, etc. But in nearly 1,500 podcasts there have been NO PODCASTS about ‘Re-joining Your Family after the Break.’ That is because a defoo isn't taking a break. It is intended to be permanent. To find true freedom/enlightenment, etc, you need a complete separation from everyone forever. This includes friends, because they're also corrupt. That is unless you can recruit them to become an FDR member and then a donator. In private chat rooms the facts and evidence strongly show the true nature of FDR. Molyneux tightly controls his messaging by way of his members. He has very specific instructions for his members on how they are to treat new members. The instructions are designed to avoid communicating the true nature of FDR. Molyneux warns the members that he often arrives as a new visitor to test their behavior. He assures them that any deviation from his requirements will cause them to be banished from the group.
Young adults have been angrily leaving their parents since the family unit began. Usually it is after many attempts to communicate or at the end of a trail of dysfunction. A DeFOO is different. First of all, the most sacred rule of the DeFoo is that it must be abrupt and without warning. There is to be absolutely no discussion or communication prior to the break other than a lie you are to tell your parents so they won't come looking for you. The member is supposed to suggest that they just need some time, but that the break it temporary. Since the parent loves and respects their child, they respect the request for some space. The second rule is that once done, there is to be NO further contact with the family under any circumstances. You are advised to take the time you have before your parents catch on, to change cell phone numbers, move away, etc. You must isolate yourself. The parents and family members are left in a state of despair and sadness. So is the FDR member. No therapist would recommend anything so destructive. Except, of course, the therapist wife.
The parent-child relationship is unstable in that period of time when the child is transitioning to adulthood and independence. There are a lot of conflicting emotions and life dynamics for all concerned. For Stefan Molyneux and his wife, Christina Papadopoulus, this is their moment of opportunity. They have developed a money making system that makes the most of this critical stage in a family relationship. They are successful if they are able to insert themselves into the mix at this critical stage and help the family break apart. Don’t worry about the shattered lives and unrelenting pain. It is just an independent adult decision to break with The good news is that FDR can generate a few dollars a month from a new donator. This essay was written when Molyneux was unguarded. He wrote it before he felt the need to maintain a public position of encouraging therapy and open communications. There is another rather famous Molyneux quote from an article published in the Guardian “You’ll never see me again.” Here it is:

"Deep down I do not believe that there are any really good parents out there - the same way that I do not believe there were any really good doctors in the 10th century." - Stefan Molyneux

Friday, February 3, 2012

Molyneux and Feminists

As someone who is in constant state of awe whenever I reflect on the nature of women (especially my bride), it has often occurred to me that Feminism is a natural place for libertarian sentiment to flourish.  I say that because at its core, Libertarianism is about freedom of the individual without prior restraint or government restrictions or societal bias.   It always seemed to me that this could easily be consistent with the best parts of Feminist goals and objectives.  It turns out there is an organization that believes this as well.  It is the Association of Libertarian Feminists.  It seems that Moly has put out a podcast that is entitled something like, "Feminism is Socialism in Panties."   With a such simpleton title (not to mention insulting) it is no wonder that Moly followed on with an equally simpleton analysis on the subject.  The aforementioned association has posted an open letter in response.  It is here.  I think you can sign the open letter.

If you are a woman and a fan of freedomainradio, I would not presume to offer advice.  You make the call on the nature of Molyneux and his level of respect for women.  If you are a man, who likes women, and has had occasion to interact with  freedomainradio in any way, I am glad to offer some advice.  Destroy all evidence on your computer, smart phone, laptop, tablet that you have ever visited the site or had any correspondence with FDR or Molyneux.  Un-friend him on Facebook.  Delete his twitter account.  Clear out your cache and browsing history.  Once you have done this avoid the subject of FDR and Stefan Molyneux at all costs.  But...If the subject of Molyneux comes up in a social situation get in front of it right way.  Stand up before anyone has a chance to remember that you used to listen to Moly . Say the following in a clear and strong voice while making pointed eye contact with every woman in the room:  "I denounce the depravity and wanton pandering stupidity of this foolish and sad man called Stefan Molyneux."