Comments on Stefan Molyneux Revealed: I don't want to grow up

Well folks, wake up - can't you see what he is...

2012-06-17T19:40:46.634-04:00

Well folks, wake up - can't you see what he is doing. He's on a mission to try to change the world through young impressionable people most of them who have not even left home yet, or on a low income, or no income, or in college and who don't know how to survive yet in the world and who are just trying to make sense of the world as it is! This has CULT written all over it......

Shame on Mr. & Mrs Moly to confuse even more these young people, who, if they cut off their families - have no means of support. Did anyone any ever hear Moly make a constructive suggestion to these young people? That, if you are not happy at home, or with your parents - sure move out, but move out responsibly, and safely and sure let your parents know how unhappy you are with them. No, he tells all young people to go, RUN!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! Did Moly ever consider if any of these young people are in a financial position to do that? Of if they have the learning skills to set up home by themselves, its pretty complicated trying to rent an apartment, you need deposits, references, a job?? Its also pretty hard to find a job today too? Did anyone ever hear Moly explain how to move out on your own while DeFOO'ng, or how to do the right thing while in a DeFOO? Another No! Well ask yourself why? How would it hurt for Moly to be honest about the pains of detachment and that moving out on one's own is a complicated process. Well imagine a young person doing this with no help or support, because he's cut all ties? Imagine if this young person needs help and won't call his parents or friends for help because he now has this painted illusion that all parents are bad?

Well some you person is going to commit an terrible act - its just a matter of time! - either to himself, his parents, or others - because he/she may become so desperate in a DeFOO and defy all reason and logic untoward - because they have been brainwashed. cultist behavior at is most highest....

Truth is that if Moly wanted to help the world, he would be doing it by advocating safe practices and philosophizeing to the young in a positive, constructive, learning way? He does in in a militant way, scary folks? Scary? I wonder what real impact of his irresponsible ways have had?

Mmmmm.... Karma is a real bitch, it sneaks up on you when you are not looking and bites you hard in the ass, could be an illness you get, could be an accident you are in......my motto in life is.....all actions have a negative consequence, positive or negative - Hey Moly this applies to you too....

Well if anyone who is going through same, pls feel free to post if you have any advise

Well my son just became a victim and I don't q...

2012-06-17T19:40:09.377-04:00

Well my son just became a victim and I don't quite know what to do? My son is 26 and lives with me, should I move him out the house? - because life right now is not very pleasant and I don't feel I should be a victim of his warped perceptions & share my life with the energy of knowledge of some warped couple in Toronto (Mr. & Mrs. Moly - Virtual Cultists)in my home. Its terrible what is happening, my son was happy and loving life up until he started with FDR. My son just quit university - he's two credits away from his degree???? - Nice Job Moly!. I am a really good mother, perhaps too good and will go to my grave knowing that, but for some reason my son sees me and his Dad as enemies after listening to FDR for only 3 months. My son has become like a serpent - very angry, abusive and breaks things - this is a 360 turn he has done. He cut his father off (mind you his Dad was a bit controlling and they did have the odd fight - but mostly those fights were about him smoking MJ). I listened to Moly's podcast and was horrified, and actually felt a sickness and saw him for what he truly is - a slimeball - he had a terrible upbringing, his perception though? - We don't really know the truth do we? I have a high HQ and I am very intuitive - here is my impression of the slimeball.

His hatred for his Mother and Brother are projected onto anyone who listens to FDR, and so much so one realizes that his anger has fueled his need to broadcast his pain through the medium of his domain through the internet the "FDR business" I'm guessing it's more free therapy for him (well he did marry a phyc too, had to to survive - Hey and paid therapy too - he subliminally trolls and brainwashes for donations. He's so broken his anger has turned into an infectious need to destroy others happy lives. Well I know why - Its because he did not have a happy life and now wants others to feel his pain. Oh Mr. Moly there are much better ways to heal yourself! He's so resentful of the world? Much like Hitler was.

It will be interesting to see any of these defooer...

2012-06-10T10:38:47.875-04:00

It will be interesting to see any of these defooers as parents some day. Twisted world. Having kids is probably frowned upon in the moly world.

I also have a family member who has defooed based ...

2010-11-29T11:38:59.281-05:00

I also have a family member who has defooed based on his association with FDR. He posts about the abuse he suffered from his parents - which never happened. I watched this kid grow up - he was hyper, he was difficult, a constant handful but they never gave up on him and he grew up to be a pretty okay person until he came into contact with that site. And now he has turned his back on everyone. And after spending some time on the FDR site trying to get a handle on it, I have to say I have never read so many pathetic posts from people in a constant state of blame. And the degree of self centeredness is horrifying. It is like they cannot step outside of themselves long enough to stop focusing on their perceived torture and invalidation as a child to move on with their lives. I don't see much of a life for any of those poor souls as long as they continue to wallow in their own self pity. Who knew people could be so easily sucked in to such a state of self destruction?

When parents disregard or ignore your feelings and...

2010-10-09T23:27:16.047-04:00

When parents disregard or ignore your feelings and thoughts, that's called 'invalidation' and is actually a pretty serious form of abuse, often because a victim finds it difficult to put the blame where it rightly belongs and instead blames themselves. More on invalidation:

http://eqi.org/invalid.htm

One of the most destructive effects of more subtle forms of child abuse is that a person thinks "there's something wrong with me" - the bulk of the problems caused by child abuse are a result of the child's conclusions about the abuse, not the abuse itself. So it is actually possible for sexual abuse and more subtle verbal abuse to cause similar problems for self worth and self destruction.

BTW, an invalidating environment as a child is thought to be one of the main causes of Borderline Personality Disorder, which is an emotionally crippling disorder which can completely screw up a person's life.

For those FDR members whose so-called abuse amount...

2010-09-21T16:20:56.989-04:00

For those FDR members whose so-called abuse amounts to, as you said, “My parents didn’t care what I thought” or ”They never listened to me"...all I can say is that I hope someday they find themselves in a room filled with people who were actually physically and/or sexually abused as children. I dare them to look those people in the eye with a straight face and tell their "tales of woe" to those who have truly suffered and who have a first-hand knowledge of what abuse really means that most FDR folks could never even remotely fathom. Nobody's childhood was perfect. We all had to deal with things that were unfair. But to take it to the level that Moly has taken it with many of these FDR recruits is, to me, despicable and beyond reprehensible. But hey, gotta pay the bills, right? Right? Right?

Actually Stef does say you should expunge all memo...

2010-07-25T09:24:47.930-04:00

Actually Stef does say you should expunge all memories of your parents. He has a rather famous podcast where he speaks in calm and peaceful tones as he calls for the listener to enter a meditative state. "You are on a boat ....your parents are on the shore... you are drifting slowly away.....you wave goodbye... you are losing sight...they are gone from your mind." He routinely counsels those public call in sessions who have trouble with FOO dreams and family memories to see the memories of your parents as destructive "bats in the belfry of your consciousness." The mission is to take a tennis racket and find them and kill these memories. Really sick stuff.

Edmund, how far into Stef's podcast's did ...

2010-07-25T07:01:05.156-04:00

Edmund, how far into Stef's podcast's did you get?

For the record I don't think Stef is saying you can't enjoy the good memories of your parents... that's a given. But it doesn't make it any less wrong when abuse rears its ugly head.

By the way Benjamin. You say you lived a normal h...

2010-07-22T20:02:14.610-04:00

By the way Benjamin. You say you lived a normal happy childhood. So did I. So did my son.

Have you defooed?

What Moly and his wife are doing is morally despic...

2010-07-22T19:58:00.770-04:00

What Moly and his wife are doing is morally despicable. But I don't see it as illegal. However, if you have any ideas on a legal breech, there are parents, family and friends all over the world who would be interested in your thoughts.

I am sympathetic to the anarcho capitalist contruc...

2010-07-22T19:53:24.741-04:00

I am sympathetic to the anarcho capitalist contruct. Ayn Rand posited such a utopia in Galt's Gulch. There are two elements of reason. Logic and empirical evidence. Moly is full of logic, but zero's out on empirical evidence. History is very unkind to Anarchy. DRO's will NOT rise from the ashes of a societal collapse. Thugs, tyrants and totaltraian regimes come from anarchy. So my solution (in very much of a nut shell) lies in the constitution. Not perfect, but as close to natural law as there is. It already exists. Let's fight from within. I confess we are losing so far, but not nearly bad enough to warrant a desire to wish for the failure of the world's last and only hope for freedom.

Ok this has me curious. If he is doing what you cl...

2010-07-22T19:33:32.452-04:00

Ok this has me curious. If he is doing what you claim... then are there any criminal or civil charges against him? I kind of jumped the gun earlier. I am an Anarchist because people should be able to keep and share the fruit of their labor as they see fit (and for many more reasons).
So anyway... have any charges been pursued?

Ok so this is just an Anti Stefan Molyneux blog. S...

2010-07-22T19:29:23.071-04:00

Ok so this is just an Anti Stefan Molyneux blog. So as an objectivist what is YOUR solution? Seriously. I have only read Practical Anarchy and I see nothing wrong with it. Oh and I should probably mention that my childhood was normal and happy.

curiously,
Benjamin

You hit the nail on the head. I, too, have referr...

2010-07-18T10:47:31.486-04:00

You hit the nail on the head. I, too, have referred to him as part of a Peter Pan complex. My son who was born weighing 7 Lbs. plus claimed to have been a premie. He came out with other outrageous twists of what really happened in his childhood to the applause of the FDR club. he was encouraged to verbally beat us his mother at a distance of 2500 miles. Thanks to Molyneux, he dropped out of college and did not make it through that decision process of how he plans to support himself.
Signed, a frustrated Defoo'd parent