Comments on Stefan Molyneux Revealed: The FDR Sting

What's wrong with the non agression principle?...

2013-12-17T16:01:00.478-05:00

What's wrong with the non agression principle? Other than what you tyrants think you get from it?

another good example of a set up where anarchy has...

2012-07-09T07:52:38.679-04:00

another good example of a set up where anarchy has a chance. The wild west was still part of the U.S. so the borders were protected. A set of laws protecting property rights was in place. But the people were largely out of reach of the power of the state, so they came up with their own ways of providing for order and such. I am finding that most historical examples of successful anarchy have these characteristics.

NECRO! There is also a good argument to be made t...

2012-07-08T03:05:03.658-04:00

NECRO!

There is also a good argument to be made that the American West before the Civil War was an anarchic society. Anderson and Hill wrote a paper entitled "The Not So Wild, Wild West". Not everything was sunshine and roses, but a lot of things normally handled by government (especially the criminal justice system) was necessarily administered by private interactions, since the FedGov had not yet reached the West.
A&H specifically discuss the Gold Rush of '49, the Wagon Trains, and the cattle industry.

Glad to post this commentary on some examples of f...

2010-12-03T15:42:30.488-05:00

Glad to post this commentary on some examples of free market anarchy working. I have said several times that I am sympathetic to the idea of good people who respect each other living in a perfect state of freedom. Some good examples here. And it is true that the DRO is a idea that Moly did NOT invent. He appropriated it and called it his own without approbation.

SATS Nearly all cults have a similar MO, see one,...

2010-12-03T13:15:46.864-05:00

SATS

Nearly all cults have a similar MO, see one, know most of the others.

I have seen a number of Mr Molineux’s You Tube performances to realise how engaging and persuasively seductive he is and realise that the thrust of this blog is to scratch beneath the surface of FDR to reveal the guile below. In the Hook section of the FDR Sting post I feel I need to make a few factual corrections so that this blog can go forward from a truthful position as possible as opposed to an emotional one.

“Anyone with a frontal lobe knows Anarchy is a crock. History has shown time after time that anarchy is brief and is shortly followed by tyranny.” I realise that ‘brief’ is relative depending on what you compare it with but how does 330 years sound followed by a monarchy. Whether or not the monarchy was tyrannical is another matter.

“Moly knows Anarchy is a crock. So he has imagined the Dispute Resolution Organization.” I am afraid you credit his imagination with too much. It has all been done before and the system worked very well. It wasn’t called that and the legal system was entirely civil so there were no prisons but with that one exception the system was as described. Ok, now I have done my own little hook it is time to tell you that this was administrative system of Iceland between the years 930 – 1263.

Details of how the whole thing actually worked in practice can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anarchist_communities#Icelandic_Commonwealth_.28930.E2.80.931262.29

and here, part lV chapter 4

http://daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf

I realise that Iceland is an island and the system could be protected from the infiltration of neighbouring ideas and also that these are very different times. With these exceptions, what he is proposing has proved to be a workable system at some time in the past and cannot therefore be described as “An incredible reach of faith”.

Mr Molyniux is here in somewhat of a bind, if he wants to demonstrate that his ideas are workable in practice then he can’t claim them as original thought. Notwithstanding this, it doesn’t stop the DRO being used as a hook.

Hmm... A friend of mine directed me to a YouTube v...

2010-09-11T19:04:52.191-04:00

Hmm... A friend of mine directed me to a YouTube video from the FDR site and from that I found your site.

This FDR thing seems suspiciously similar to Scientology to me, maybe they can get Tom Cruise or John Travolta to sign up!