tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7515274855900925482.post915837082230107279..comments2012-05-08T15:36:12.052-04:00Comments on Stefan Molyneux and Free Domain Radio (FDR) Revealed: Defoo quotes from MolyneuxEdmund Burkehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14382918660870366357noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7515274855900925482.post-52821690902749357692012-05-03T19:16:49.456-04:002012-05-03T19:16:49.456-04:00I have a nephew who defooed. One day my sweet, fu...I have a nephew who defooed. One day my sweet, funny and much adored nephew sends an email to all of us telling saying he will no longer be friends on Facebook - but it is nothing personal. And he said talk to his parents if you need more info... so I ask his Dad what is going on and he said he had no idea - he received a generic little note saying he was taking a break. He did not even have the common courtesy to tell his parents why. I found out from his ex-girlfriend that he had become involved with Free Domain Radio and she sent me a link to the Globe and Mail Article about Molyneau. His connection with FDR is the reason why she left him. It did not take long to feel fully confident that FDR was the reason why - the nephew even used a direct quote in his note to his parents that Molyneau outlines on his website. The thing most puzzling to me is my nephew was close to 30 years old at the time of the break - not some young, impressionable kid still living at home and feeling rebellious - he had moved away from home years before. But he fell for the whole FDR parents are evil and abusive story - hook, line and sinker. And bless his little heart - he has Philosipher King status now, so you know he is making sure Moly can continue his family unit massacre on more poor souls in the future. And my nephew was never physically abused and tortured... he could probably count on one hand how many times he was spanked as a child. He was a really non stop active kid with a huge imagination - and honestly lost of people in my family thought he was really was not disciplined enough growing up and that his parents were too easy going. Honestly, I would like to take him over my knee now... but I digress. At 52 years old, I have come into the realization of how important my family and friend connections are to me - they give me life, they immerse me in a sense of love and belonging - that is how a rich, full life is supposed to feel. And for him I forsee a lonely, misguided existance with nothing but some cyber relationships, that he has to pay for, to keep him warm. How very sad for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7515274855900925482.post-83303058582159259752011-05-02T10:46:15.608-04:002011-05-02T10:46:15.608-04:00If I may summarize your comment: Molyneux was giv...If I may summarize your comment: Molyneux was giving out some &#39;tough love&#39; to a person who needed a reality check on the harshness of the world out there and life ingeneral. In the FDR world, such tough love by a parent is considered a prima facie example of abuse. I am sympathetic to an occasional need for a kick in the butt, but keep something in mind. Moly does not know this person. It is in a public chat room. I do think it is a problem for Moly to be handing out such &#39;harsh reality /tough world&#39; advice to a person who is putting forth suicide ideation. As to the full context, I think Molyneux wasn&#39;t trying to help. I think he was upset that the person was a raining on the FDR parade and he wanted to get rid of him.Edmund Burkehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14382918660870366357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7515274855900925482.post-85339183453973797362011-04-30T01:36:57.932-04:002011-04-30T01:36:57.932-04:00I just read the thread you linked to in this post....I just read the thread you linked to in this post... It seems the quote was taken slightly out of context, as Stefan had a legitimate reason to tell this person to get away from his parents.<br /><br />If you read the thread you&#39;ll see that the original poster was using his parents for monetary support while simultaneously blaming them for all of his problems and &quot;contemplating&quot; suicide while never really having the courage to do it. Childish thought patterns all around. He seemed like a kid who just needs to get out of the nest and experience life firsthand and take a few lumps so he can get a better grip on reality. Someone who needs to take responsibility for himself.<br /><br />So I agree with Stefan in this particular case. This kid needs to man up. Everyone needs to leave the household eventually. It&#39;s a huge world out there. The sooner they experience it the better.<br /><br />I agree that there is a negative side to the concept of the &quot;deFOO&quot;. Unless your parents were legitimately abusive - and by &quot;legitimately&quot;, I mean extreme physical and sexual abuse, not &quot;my daddy hit me when I was six boo hoo&quot; - I see no reason to completely cut off ties with them. However, I do think that eventually a kid has to leave the nest. Living with the same 2 people for too long will drive you crazy. Like I said, it&#39;s a big world out there. These kids need breathing room.<br /><br />Also, when these kids &quot;deFOO&quot;, so to speak, and see the harsh realities of the material world, Moly&#39;s ideas won&#39;t matter so much. Because when you&#39;re hungry you don&#39;t think about the Federal Reserve or abusive parents or the state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7515274855900925482.post-22121319719387569072011-04-13T11:11:38.344-04:002011-04-13T11:11:38.344-04:00According to Molyneux, everyone is terrified of th...According to Molyneux, everyone is terrified of their parents and siblings (and parents are equivalent to war criminals)<br />http://media.freedomainradio.com/feed/FDR_427_Fearing_Parents.mp3Patiencenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7515274855900925482.post-43223119169455399962011-03-05T12:17:04.581-05:002011-03-05T12:17:04.581-05:00Thank you Questeon. I was not sure. Molyneux doe...Thank you Questeon. I was not sure. Molyneux does stand by his words and beliefs. Once item on the &#39;mouths to feed&#39; Reminder on this comment. <br />44:40 “Please send me a donation... it will make it a lot easier for you to confront your parents if you&#39;re acting with good integrity in your life in general”<br /><br />I think this one comment best captures the essence of FDR.Edmund Burkehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14382918660870366357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7515274855900925482.post-51956100165028788022011-03-04T16:34:25.780-05:002011-03-04T16:34:25.780-05:00To Edmund... Just a small correction. The podcast...To Edmund...<br /><br />Just a small correction. The podcasts you refer to ARE still available on-line. The reference numbers (347, 348, and 350) still remain, but they have been retitled &quot;Breaking with Corruption--Step by Step.&quot; I just now (3/4/2011) clicked on one to listen and another to download. Both worked fine.<br /><br />During the time Molyneux spent as an (unsuccessful) novelist, he clearly grasped the importance of a catchy title. He gives it a lot of thought and sometimes re-titles some podcasts apparently to make them sound more intriguing.<br /><br />Therefore, it&#39;s not unusual to find a podcast whose title promises some lofty, definitive answer to something but the recording itself barely references the question or, worse, seems to be unfocused rambling about a specific event.<br /><br />To Anonymous...<br /><br />The good news is that the &quot;evidence&quot; you ask for is right there. But I have a challenge for you to consider.<br /> <br />These three podcasts are very much as I described above--a little structure, a little rambling, a lot of Molyneux airing his grievances with his own family. <br /><br />It&#39;s tragic to consider the young people with family problems who listen to these recordings and expect to hear a definitive step-by-step plan for &quot;escaping corruption,&quot; never realizing how Molyneux has leapfrogged over the PROBLEM to provide his one-size-fits-all solution. And perhaps they don&#39;t yet know that the man who recorded them so hates traditional families, he refers to them as &quot;Accidental Biological Cages (ABC).&quot;<br /><br />When anyone is troubled about his/her family and looks for a solution, there is a critically important, can&#39;t-be-overlooked first step. One must determine the cause of the dysfunction--is it simply growing pains, miscommunication, something else? All of that is skipped over at FDR in general and these podcasts in particular. Yet it takes skill and insight to determine the essential root cause(s), case-by-case. Sometimes they are complex enough that it requires the help of a trained professional counselor to truly understand the problem. <br /><br />Molyneux&#39;s solution is easy and universally applied to all families: &quot;Oh no, your family is just corrupt. They&#39;re evil. You need to get away.&quot; <br /><br />The point I&#39;m leading to is that you can look for evidence within the podcasts if you like but you needn&#39;t listen to one second of them to realize how dangerous they are--when you understand the above black-and-white view Molyneux has of families. If you are somewhere in the age range of 18 to 26 (I think that&#39;s about the target age range for FDR) and you are not completely happy with your family, Molyneux--who assumes the air of a professional despite a complete lack of training in family psychology--will tell you it is because they are evil. And that&#39;s no exaggeration of his views. <br /><br />When it comes to evidence, however, I have spent a lot of time specifically capturing the views he expresses in his podcasts, dissected and transcribed on my site. Certainly, if Mr. Molyneux (or anyone else) were to inform me that my transcriptions were in error, I would gladly change or remove the offending text. Over time, I&#39;ve found that there is very little critical analysis I can provide of FDR&#39;s family psycholgy &quot;theories&quot; that is as damning as simply putting the views he expresses in those podcasts in plain view, word-for-word, for all to see. He believes you were badly raised. He believes nearly all parents are horribly bad. He believes there is no way for you to be an honorable person if you consort with corrupt people like your parents. All his words. All his views. I&#39;ve never heard him deny them or repudiate them. <br /><br />Edmund is spot on.QuestEonhttp://www.fdrliberated.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7515274855900925482.post-87475426755611139972011-03-01T19:29:58.851-05:002011-03-01T19:29:58.851-05:00I appreciate the comment. The whole &#39;mouths to...I appreciate the comment. The whole &#39;mouths to feed&#39; argument is a good one. On the MP3 proof, it does exist on servers off site from FDR, but I am not inclined to pursue for a couple of reasons. First, I don&#39;t think Moly will refute the comments. Second, even if he does, it is enough that I have offered the counter point for anyone to consider as they make their own judgements on Moly. I just want to allow a thoughtful person like yourself to be warned. That mission is already accomplished. Thought of a third reason. I have a life. And I am not good with audio editing. It would take too many hours to dig out the podcasts, dissect them and convert to MP3 snippets.Edmund Burkehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14382918660870366357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7515274855900925482.post-64699121960285922172011-03-01T18:58:13.351-05:002011-03-01T18:58:13.351-05:00It would have been nice if you had the original MP...It would have been nice if you had the original MP3&#39;s of at least one of those three podcasts to make your evidence a bit more tangible. At this point its just speculation. Now we&#39;re dealing with &quot;IF those podcasts existed&quot; rather than &quot;those podcasts DO exist&quot; (your word against theirs). I hope I&#39;m making sense here. I&#39;m not accusing anyone of lying here, but you really should start saving stuff if you want to do more damage. Screenshots, podcasts, videos and the like.<br /><br />And if only the links to those podcasts were pulled, then the actual mp3&#39;s might still be floating somewhere out there on the internet.<br /><br />I can&#39;t say much on the subject of Moly requesting donations. He&#39;s got mouths to feed. <br /><br />The bottom line is that everyone has an agenda. That&#39;s why it&#39;s never wise to fully subscribe anyone&#39;s ideologies except for those that you have developed through personal life experience. Unfortunately they don&#39;t teach kids this in school. And that&#39;s how they get sucked in. :(<br /><br />Anyways I&#39;m starting to ramble. Save stuff next time. It gives you more credibility. Good luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com