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Monday, February 7, 2011

The top five arguments against this site

There are five general arguments I get from folks who like Moly.  I would like to address them and put them in one place.
a:  I have never heard Molyneux suggest a defoo
b:  So what if he asks for money.  He is allowed to do that.
c:  Moly recommends therapy for unhealthy relationships
d:  I know Moly hates families but I didn't defoo so what's the big deal 
e:  This site is just about attacking Moly. 

Argument a: I have never heard Molyneux suggest a defoo
This just means you haven't heard the podcasts on defooing.  There are lots.  They have been thoroughly and conclusively  documented here and in quite a few other places. These examples are only the ones that deal directly with the defoo.  There are also the anti-family rants, Sunday call in therapy sessions where, no matter what the original subject, the discussion always turns to your poor abusive parents, his insidious rules for how to treat people who visit the FDR chat rooms, and of course, his personal efforts directly with people who are considering a defoo which are not known to the public or casual visitor to FDR. 
Argument b: So what if he asks for money. He is allowed to do that.
This is not really an argument.  It is axiomatic that you are free to ask for money.   It is my opinion however that it is not a morally neutral event when a licensed therapist and her husband run a business based on breaking up families.   
Argument cMoly recommends therapy for unhealthy relationships
As a matter of Public Relations, this is true.  In practice, Moly persuades strongly against therapy.  When talking to a specific person, his (and his lieutenants on his site) attitude is much more like: "Why bother?  It won't work anyway.  You know your parents are corrupt.  Just get out and be free."  Here is the PR part of it.  Moly and car dealer advertisements have something in common.  The car dealer blares out that "We will NOT be undersold" or "lowest prices in the tri-state area."  They hope that by the time you get to the showroom, you have bought that idea and will trust that their price is the best.  The salesman on the floor will remind you "you can shop if you wish, but you will end up back here."  They want to be able to close the deal while you are there.  Moly discussions about therapy are in the same vein.  Moly is hoping you will grant him the high ground for recommending therapy.  Both the car dealer and Moly are hoping hard that you will not bother following their recommendation.  Moly hopes you will simply decide to break with an 'unsatisfying' relationship without bothering with therapy or communication.  In a call in podcast show I heard him tell a caller not to bother trying to repair a relationship with a parent.  "You know they won't listen.  Why bother engaging when you already know they won't agree to therapy."  One very popular move by someone anticipating a defoo is to engage in a surprise discussion. Something like this:  "I am unhappy with things and think we need some therapy."  The parent is surprised and worried (maybe shocked).  They say something like, "Let's talk this out first. If we decide therapy is needed, we can do that."  Moly says, "Well you tried.  It isn't surprising they did not go for it.  For $50 a month you can be a philosopher king." 
Argument d:  I know Moly hates families but I didn't defoo so what's the big deal 
This is kind of a self centered argument.  As in:  It didn't happen to me so there is no problem here.   To anyone making this argument, I am glad your family is still ok, but keep in mind that it does happen to other people.  These comments usually do acknowledge that Moly is against the traditional family.  they seem to be saying that Moly is trying but they aren't buying.  At least not so far. 
Argument e:  This site is just about attacking Moly
This is true and maybe a pretty good argument.  I have reviewed some of the blogs.  I think I may indeed be a bit too flamboyant in my criticism.  I will endeavor to tone things down a little.  But in the end, it is enough that anyone simply notices this site.  Whether you think it is too harsh or not harsh enough, you are properly warned.   You can make your own judgements on Moly's real motivations.     

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